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16.11.06
at 08:42

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It's spawned a whole industry playing on fear of drink spiking, school children creating tamper-proof bottle tops (they shouldn't be drinking anyway), knee-jerk Blunkett raising GHB to Class A and so on but new evidence suggests that most "victims" of date rape drugs are, in fact, merely bladdered, mullahed, out of their trees on....alcohol, that most dangerous, but paradoxically legal and socially celebrated, drug:

Date-rape drugs 'not widespread'

Use of Rohypnol is not "widespread", said report

Research suggests date-rape drugs may not be as prevalent as first thought.

A study commissioned by the Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo), suggests many victims of sexual assault may have just been extremely drunk.

Quelle surprise.

Incidentally I noticed the other day polling evidence on attitudes to alcohol that suggested that up to 5.7 million people in the UK I think it was "drink to get drunk" - so let's have none of this bleating about it more often being about good taste and social oiling. People who "drink to get drunk" are no better than the heroin junkie wanting to get out of it. By contrast, the casual dope smoker having a spliff to unwind is more like a dinner party wine drinker - right down to the connoisseur style of critique of the subtlety of different "brands".

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On 18.11.06 at 11:07 Praguetory (not verified) said:

I agree with what you are saying about alcohol here. This confirms my instinct that alcohol use is firmly correlated with an increase in rape and other sexual assaults.
Unfortunately, as the rape convictions statistics show the law offers little hope for justice for victims. This gloomy but accurate picture is what the government should be telling us not this. Jock, I should note that in almost half of the "alleged date rapes" illegal drugs (such as ecstasy and cocaine) were also involved so I am not sure I can follow your line of reasoning in totality."

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On 18.11.06 at 13:52 Jock Coats (not verified) said:

I did agree with your post on your blog about this, and yes, I do think the misinformation is the worst factor in all of this.

As to ecstasy and cocaine, it would be interesting to know what they mean by involved". Both of course tend to make the user more assertive. I would accept that it's probably involved more in the perpetrator than the victim perhaps. Coke tends towards the agressive where E tends to the more cuddly, but both can lead to an invasion of "personal space". The other possibility is that with E, if the victim uses it, can make you less careful about who you "bond" with and one noted effect is to delay the recoil reaction a little - you sometimes do things, get into situations, where you probably wouldn't go if you were completely sober and then realise a few seconds in. But nothing like getting practically comatose and waking up with someone all over you.

*That* is the mark of alcohol."